• Episode 43: Contemplating Symbols and Meanings

    In this episode, Christopher and Riley are joined by guest Daniel Meehan for a discussion contemplating symbols and their meanings. After a brief discussion defining symbols and meanings, they delve into a discussion of some symbols and meanings beginning at convention and culminating with invention. Dan demonstrates his devotional practice of definition, deconstruction, and reconstruction of symbols and meanings, following the wisdom pattern, as Richard Rohr, OFM calls it, of order, disorder, reorder, to discover differing and deeper meanings of the symbols discussed. Riley and Chris follow Dan’s lead and prove the power of his practice by passing from convention in the interpretation of symbols to invention, discovering differing and…

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  • Episode 69: D&C 106-108

    Shiloh is joined with guest co-host Christopher Hurtado to discuss modality in terms of the priesthood. Modes are, in a sense, stories that we believe in as real and that we pour our intentionality into to produce experiences. By "story" it is not necessarily to say a "fiction," but it is a narrative that frames our belief(s) and that we combine with our faith unto action. When we say something as simple as "I am going to go pray to God," we often do not take into account the richness and complexities of the assumed stories and expectations that go into that short phrase. In that statement is the assumption…

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  • Episode 42: Mysticism

    Mysticism, properly understood, is a process or pursuit of divine oneness or communion with God. While that seems like a worthy aspiration, many can feel uncomfortable with mystical practices such as transcendental meditation. Mystics over the centuries have largely been misunderstood, characterized as heretical, or marginalized to protect orthodox authority. Indeed, Joseph Smith was treated similarly by religious leaders of his time; and yet today within the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints there exists a strong, literal, materialist tradition which becomes the filter through which we view God, leaving many with unmet spiritual needs. In this episode, Riley and Christopher suggest that our image of God and the…

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  • Episode 68: D&C 102 – 105

    Ben and Shiloh discuss some of the history and context of Zion's Camp. These were unprecedented times for the early Saints, and there was a lot of uncertainty about the problems in Missouri. Were they to abandon Jackson County entirely? But what of the prophecies of the New Jerusalem there? How would they get their property back? Would they have to fight? Would the law support them? The Missouri governor, Governor Dunklin, was somewhat sympathetic to the Saints and had made certain promises to help them regain their land, but these promises ultimately failed. There was a lot of violent rhetoric and metaphor used by the Saints and church leaders…

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  • Episode 41: Contemplating Good and Evil

    In this episode, Christopher and Riley contemplate good and evil from the loss of paradise in the duality of the fall to the regaining of paradise in a return to unity in the mystery of the conjunction of opposites and the sacred marriage of heaven and earth. In the course of the conversation, Riley and Christopher ponder the problem of evil postulated by Epicurus and the theodicies, or solutions to this problem, offered by philosophers and theologians from antiquity to modernity, and thus the purpose of good and evil from the fall of humanity into duality to its redemption in unity.

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  • Episode 67: D&C 98 – 101

    Shiloh and Ben open up about their experiences in studying the Constitution as BYU students and their journey into peace studies. Section 98 is a type of bridge in their life between the Lord's justification of his people to follow the principles in the Constitution that protects the rights and freedoms of all people and the Lord's command to "renounce war and proclaim peace." How often do we really "renounce war," and does it mean to "proclaim peace." How often do we unwittingly assume that "peace" is what naturally follows when everyone finally agrees with us? How often do we think that "peace" is what Jesus Christ brings when he…

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  • Episode 40: Contemplating Resurrection

    In this episode, Riley and Christopher take on the topic of resurrection. Is resurrection something that happens after we do, or do we need to be resurrected before we die? What would it look like to be resurrected before we die and what does a resurrected life in Christ look like? Christopher and Riley answer these questions and related questions about spiritual death and life with New Testament and extracanonical scriptures from the Gnostics, touching on the ordinances of baptism and the Sacrament and offer suggestions for living a resurrected life in Christ in the present.

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  • Episode 66: D&C 94-97

    Ben and Shiloh discuss the concepts of "unclean" and "chasten." Are these concepts to be taken as metaphysical reality, or are they epistemic ideas that help us break through the layers of perception of the false self? The gospel of Jesus Christ provides many modalities of experiencing God, and in the restored gospel narrative, such as in Section 89 with the Word of Wisdom, we have a front seat view in learning how many of these modes are created. As we pour our intentionality into these modes, we awaken and are made aware of the reality of God that is always already existent around us at all times. God's work…

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  • Episode 39: Poetry and the Sacred

    The language of the sacred is often poetic, rather than propositional. It speaks of feelings, not facts. The fact is, any experience of the sacred is inexpressible in propositional terms. It should come as no surprise then that many of the sacred texts of the world’s religions are in poetry, not prose: the Hindu Vedas, Upanishads, Mahabharata, Bhagavad Gita, and Ramayana; Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezequiel, the twelve minor prophets, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, the Song of Solomon and the Book of Revelation in the Jewish and Christian Bibles; the sacred text of Taoism, the Tao Te Ching; and the Muslim Qur’an. Even philosophers and theologians have tried to express their propositional…

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  • Episode 65: D&C 93

    Shiloh and Ben discuss topics of truth, grace, light, intelligence, God's nature, knowledge, agency, glory, the spirit, Satan's nature, the true/false self, obedience, and family obligations. There is a lot to unpack in Section 93's few pages. In our religious observances, it is common to ponder over the question of God's existence. It would seem that the most powerful experience we could have in this life would be to actually see and physically converse with God face-to-face. But is this really so? Consider the many theophanies documented in the scriptures. The rapturous and celestial event fades away and the person is left again to its own devices, weaknesses, and reality.…

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