Ben is joined again by Christopher Hurtado in a discussion about D&C Sections 111-114. The Saints are anxious about their future and ability to establish the Church according to the revelations. The Lord tells them that they need not be concerned with outcomes. He will take care of their debts and the destiny of Zion. They are invited to simply labor with Him. They are to take of their cross and feed His sheep. As we take upon ourselves the name of Christ, the scriptures about Christ become scriptures about us. The priesthood is the power of God to redeem Zion through gentleness, meekness, and love, without compulsion. How does…

Ben is joined by Christopher Hurtado for a discussion about the Kirtland Temple dedication. How did the early Saints view the temple and what does the Lord invite us to by way of the symbolism of the temple itself? Does God need a building or is the structure a mode by which we manifest our intention as a people? Prayer is often perceived as a way to inform or persuade God, but if God's knowledge and will are perfect, prayer can only be a mode of changing us and our perceptions to align with God's. How does Joseph Smith's dedicatory prayer show us a pattern of worship and prayer? What…

Shiloh is joined with guest co-host Christopher Hurtado to discuss modality in terms of the priesthood. Modes are, in a sense, stories that we believe in as real and that we pour our intentionality into to produce experiences. By "story" it is not necessarily to say a "fiction," but it is a narrative that frames our belief(s) and that we combine with our faith unto action. When we say something as simple as "I am going to go pray to God," we often do not take into account the richness and complexities of the assumed stories and expectations that go into that short phrase. In that statement is the assumption…

Ben and Shiloh discuss some of the history and context of Zion's Camp. These were unprecedented times for the early Saints, and there was a lot of uncertainty about the problems in Missouri. Were they to abandon Jackson County entirely? But what of the prophecies of the New Jerusalem there? How would they get their property back? Would they have to fight? Would the law support them? The Missouri governor, Governor Dunklin, was somewhat sympathetic to the Saints and had made certain promises to help them regain their land, but these promises ultimately failed. There was a lot of violent rhetoric and metaphor used by the Saints and church leaders…

Shiloh and Ben open up about their experiences in studying the Constitution as BYU students and their journey into peace studies. Section 98 is a type of bridge in their life between the Lord's justification of his people to follow the principles in the Constitution that protects the rights and freedoms of all people and the Lord's command to "renounce war and proclaim peace." How often do we really "renounce war," and does it mean to "proclaim peace." How often do we unwittingly assume that "peace" is what naturally follows when everyone finally agrees with us? How often do we think that "peace" is what Jesus Christ brings when he…

Ben and Shiloh discuss the concepts of "unclean" and "chasten." Are these concepts to be taken as metaphysical reality, or are they epistemic ideas that help us break through the layers of perception of the false self? The gospel of Jesus Christ provides many modalities of experiencing God, and in the restored gospel narrative, such as in Section 89 with the Word of Wisdom, we have a front seat view in learning how many of these modes are created. As we pour our intentionality into these modes, we awaken and are made aware of the reality of God that is always already existent around us at all times. God's work…

Shiloh and Ben discuss topics of truth, grace, light, intelligence, God's nature, knowledge, agency, glory, the spirit, Satan's nature, the true/false self, obedience, and family obligations. There is a lot to unpack in Section 93's few pages. In our religious observances, it is common to ponder over the question of God's existence. It would seem that the most powerful experience we could have in this life would be to actually see and physically converse with God face-to-face. But is this really so? Consider the many theophanies documented in the scriptures. The rapturous and celestial event fades away and the person is left again to its own devices, weaknesses, and reality.…

Ben and Shiloh talk about the Word of Wisdom and in how we create our modes of worship. The Word of Wisdom is a fascinating conversation, but it is often criticized because of its seeming inconsistencies. The Word of Wisdom has evolved and has been through various revisions, interpretations, and levels of enforcement, and this has sometimes caused a lack of belief in its importance or its power. However, when we understand the Word of Wisdom by means of creating religious modality, we can also create space for historical changes and nuance while also strengthening our choice to adhere to the Word of Wisdom. Any seeming incongruity or inconsistency in…

Shiloh and Ben talk about the law and light of Christ. We often think of "law" as a list of rules and standards, but does D&C 88 offer us a new insight into the nature of God's law that isn't commonly addressed? In what possible ways does understanding that the "light of Christ"—which is in and through all things"—is the law by which all things are governed" change the way that we view the law? Here in D&C 88 we also have a rather rare short description on the nature of God that describes God's omniscience, omnipresence, and a type of panentheism that we don't commonly equate to an embodied…

Ben and Shiloh discuss the parable of the wheat and the tares as found in Matthew 13 and D&C 86. A common interpretation of this parable is that the "wheat" and the "tares" are people, and in this interpretation, we typically include ourselves as wheat and those who we disagree with or who are not living our standards as tares. However, is this really the point of the parable? How often do our interpretations and assumptions of scripture serve to unnecessarily "otherize" us from our brothers and sisters? What if the point of this parable was not to "otherize" but to show how God leads, guides, and builds each of…